Powerlab 8 For Mac

My new setup just came from Progressive RC. I got the Dual Powerlab 8 / Mean Well 48v PS combo. It is one of their prebuilt options in the PRC Hardline case. Very impressed, it is a sweet setup. I also purchased 2 of the MPA parallel boards. I have the PC interface adapter as well and have installed the CCS software on my Mac using Parallels.

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They are pretty much equal. But if you can find out which one has the highest balancing voltage, I would lean towards that one. The higher the balancing voltage the better it deals with those stubborn cells that take forever to get up to 4.2 in the last part of the charge. But even with all the cells in good condition the overall charge is shorter.I don't have either of them BTW.Also with the new HV cells coming out, can either of them have the termination voltage increased to match them, if you are considering using those cells? They are pretty much equal. But if you can find out which one has the highest balancing voltage, I would lean towards that one.

The higher the balancing voltage the better it deals with those stubborn cells that take forever to get up to 4.2 in the last part of the charge. But even with all the cells in good condition the overall charge is shorter.I don't have either of them BTW.Also with the new HV cells coming out, can either of them have the termination voltage increased to match them, if you are considering using those cells?One plus of the Icharger is 1.2a balance current, vs. 1 amp on the pl8.I hadn't even thought of the HV cells, definitely will take that into consideration.There is also a couple benefits to running 2 seperate pl8's(the cases interlock).Overall, more power potential from the PL8, better balance current and discharge from the Icharger.

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The Dual PL8 takes 2 seperate power inputs 40amps each, up to 48v, but needs 39v to get the full 1344W, 2 single pl8's get max output with 26V, Icharger gets Max of 1400W/channel, but only 2000w total, but at 24v(max 50v).I've read about more failures with the Icharger so far, none with PL8.Display is cool on Icharger, but PL8 seems pretty simple.Oh, the Icharger actually has a built in servo tester!.Here is a bit of discussion I foundI was about to pull the trigger on the Icharger, then I came across the dual PL8, I'll have to get into a bit more research tomorrow, on my way out. A single (or separate pair of) PL8 can charge each cell individually via the balance leads at up to 3A, so has a 3A balance current at low charge rates. They call this node charging and if it is something you are interested in, note that the dual PL8 can't do it.PL8 is made by the same company that is distributing the HV LiPos and as such are the recommended chargers for them. I am pretty sure the Icharger has an adjustable charge voltage too, but I don't know how high it goes, my fusion is adjustable but only goes as far as 4.25v/cell (the maximum charge voltage for normal LiPos). Don't get too hung up on the ' High Voltage cells '. I did a series of tests when I first got my Power Lab a few years ago with my Eagletree system.

I cycled New Dinogy batteries 5 times and made 5 moderate power runs for break in then charged to 4.15 per cell and logged 2 runs, then charged to 4.20 and made 2 runs with the batteries at 100 degrees F for all runs when I put them in the boat.The results, after 150 feet the batteries were at the same voltage!I have been charging at 4.18 ever since! 67 lipos, WOW how do you find time to charge, store charge, ect.?I used to start charging as soon as I got back from the pond, and charge through the week etc so I could run a few after work, but my packs sat charged for too long at times. I find that after running my boat packs are usually at least 3.6v, which is a fine storage IMO.

I really only store charge the boat packs for the winter, cars run indoors all winter). The whole idea of getting a high power charger was so I could parallel charge for example (2) sets of (4) packs at a time at 40 amps per set, to get 8 packs charged in hopefully 30 min or so, and be able to charge all or most of my packs during the morning prep work(I get up early). The server supplies 2zo-rc can be used in series. If you check out this article you can see how many packs an I charger can do in on shot with correct power.I have actually been running a pair of those in series for over a year to power my current Hyperion charger, I already ordered another pair to set up in series. Each pair will run one side of the PL8x2 at 24v/47amps/1150Watts, and if I went with the Icharger 4010duo I would have just put all 4 in series for 48v/47amp/2300Watts.

I get them on Ebay, this last pair was $32 for both, can't beat it. There are a few other models that work well also, but I already know how to mod/configure these ones so I stuck with the same. Sorry kevin.In my first post, I did mean to say highest balancing 'current', not voltage.But I was referring to some of the chargers that only have a max of 200 or 300ma balancing current.I'm sure you'll be glad you went with the Powerlab.If Revolectrix bring out the 4.4 & 4.6V cells there will also be a firmware upgrade released unless they've already installed it up to those values in the newer chargers.Do we know when these new Revo packs are coming out??I need to get me a new charger for these HV packs that are out today. Hi Kevin are you really charging 8 pack there how do you keep track of the balancing on them?

Thanks ChrisYeah me too. How's that work? Not questioning. Wanting to learn something. Your not the only one I've seen doing this.Note on the iCharger.My duo will balance two packs obviously. One of the gillion options on this thing is 'regenerative discharge'.

If one cell is slightly high it discharges it a bit. With regenerative discharge on it pumps voltage back to the source. Sort of saving juice if you follow.

So if charging form a battery it pumps power back into your car battery. Pretty slick.You're supposed to turn it off if you are using a power supply as the voltage feed back to the supply will climb. Unfortunately, even though it's turned off, it still back feeds to the power supply until your power supply overvolts and shuts off or self destructs. I lost 4 power supplies before I figured out what it was doing. It's a horrible design flaw. My bulldogs will just reset themselves but charging stops as the charger shuts off and reboots.

The computer type power supplies that are popular lately that go 75 amps don't have overvolt protection. They just die. How's that work? Not questioning. Wanting to learn something. Your not the only one I've seen doing this.Note on the iCharger.My duo will balance two packs obviously. One of the gillion options on this thing is 'regenerative discharge'.

If one cell is slightly high it discharges it a bit. With regenerative discharge on it pumps voltage back to the source. Sort of saving juice if you follow.

They just die.Ahhhhh. This is why my power supplies were failing when using ichargers.

When I switched to powerlab I didn't have any more issues.

Windows. LabChart 8.1 or later do not support Windows Classic theme.

In the Preset Comment 'Event Configuration' dialog, if 'Comment only on first stimulus' is checked, the comment is disabled for the entire record after the first pulse.Mac. If you are on OS X v10.11 (El Capitan) and have already upgraded to LabChart 8.1.2 - Please upgrade to 8.1.3 rather than in feature manager. You can then proceed as normal for all future upgrades. There are some features that were present in LabChart 7 that are not currently included in LabChart v8.1. The ADInstruments Blood Flow Meter is occasionally initialized with only one channel enabled. The user can manually enable the second channel.

For machines that have high-resolution Retina displays, users may encounter responsiveness and stability issues when using the Scope View. Mac changes. Fixed issue where using the FE2XX Series Bio-amp (Octal, Quad, Dual and Neuro amps) input Low pass filters with cutoff frequencies of 1 kHz or lower could introduce inter-channel delays of up to 1.5 ms. Fixed issue where the FE2XX Series Bio-amp bandwidth was lower than expected at sampling rates below 100 kS/s. This also affected sampling with slave devices when sampling from multiple devices into the same document, e.g. When sampling with two PowerLabs the slave device would have a lower bandwidth than the master device. Fixed issue with the delay compensation for FE2XX Bio-amp inputs.

The delay between a signal recorded via the Bio-amp input relative to that recorded by a PowerLab input is now less than +/- 10 µs for sample rates above 100 S/s, and less than +/- 1 sample period for all sampling rates, so long as the PowerLab input and Bio-amp input have the same input low pass filter settings (including the case where the input low pass filters are both off). New PowerLab Red enabler improves the self-calibration of 15 and 26 series PowerLabs (i.e. Offset calibration on startup). Fixed issue where making a selection in the Chart View could cause a bad access in the Zoom View. Fixed an issue that prevented opening some files saved with LabChart 7 or earlier.

Fixed an issue where comment text is incorrect within certain files saved with LabChart 7 or earlier. Fixed an issue where searching in the Help would return no results.New Known IssuesThere are no new known issues in this release. Windows changes. Fixed issue where using the FE2XX Series Bio-amp (Octal, Quad, Dual and Neuro amps) input Low pass filters with cutoff frequencies of 1 kHz or lower could introduce inter-channel delays of up to 1.5 ms. Fixed issue where the FE2XX Series Bio-amp bandwidth was lower than expected at sampling rates below 100 kS/s. This also affected sampling with slave devices when sampling from multiple devices into the same document, e.g. When sampling with two PowerLabs the slave device would have a lower bandwidth than the master device.

Fixed issue with the delay compensation for FE2XX Bio-amp inputs. The delay between a signal recorded via the Bio-amp input relative to that recorded by a PowerLab input is now less than +/- 10 µs for sample rates above 100 S/s, and less than +/- 1 sample period for all sampling rates, so long as the PowerLab input and Bio-amp input have the same input low pass filter settings (including the case where the input low pass filters are both off). New PowerLab Red enabler improves the self-calibration of 15 and 26 series PowerLabs (i.e. Offset calibration on startup).New Known IssuesThere are no new known issues in this release. Mac changes. Essential release adding support for macOS 10.15 Catalina and later. The option to display data in the Chart View in “Sweep mode” has been removed from Display Settings.

This change was made to prevent users experiencing responsiveness and stability issues when using the Chart View on machines having high resolution Retina displays.Known Issues. For machines that have high-resolution Retina displays, users may encounter responsiveness and stability issues when using the Scope View.

Mac and WindowsCopying and pasting text into external applications has been optimized for data accuracy.LabChart Online features (Send and Publish) have been removed. Mac and WindowsCopying and pasting text into external applications has been optimized for data accuracy.LabChart Online features (Send and Publish) have been removed.

Mac and Windows GeneralLinks to the ADInstruments Forum have been removed. Mac changes. Essential release adding support for macOS 10.15 Catalina and later. The option to display data in the Chart View in “Sweep mode” has been removed from Display Settings.

Stimulator interval can now be specified in milliseconds. Fixed an issue where the input amplifier dialog would reset its scale to default after any setting was changed. Fixed an issue where Data Pad’s channel value calculations were sometimes out by a constant factor. This could happen when making selections in the Scope view and a background page had been specified. Fixed issue where Bioamp Dialog could display combinations of Low pass and High pass filter settings that were not supported by the hardware. General. Fixed an issue where some views couldn’t be copy-and-pasted into other applications.

Updated Trigger help to mention limitations of Stimulator event triggers. When deleting data in the Chart View, there is now an option to set the start of the block time to 0. Fixed issue where DataPad calculations in columns beyond 'BL' would display 'Calculating.' General. Fixed an issue where some views couldn’t be copy-and-pasted into other applications. Stimulator interval can now be specified in milliseconds. Fixed an issue where the input amplifier dialog would reset its scale to default after any setting was changed.

Fixed an issue where Data Pad’s channel value calculations were sometimes out by a constant factor. This could happen when making selections in the Scope view and a background page had been specified. Fixed issue where Bioamp Dialog could display combinations of Low pass and High pass filter settings that were not supported by the hardware. Updated Trigger help to mention limitations of Stimulator event triggers. When deleting data in the Chart View, there is now an option to set the start of the block time to 0. Fixed issue where DataPad calculations in columns beyond 'BL' would display 'Calculating.' General.

Fixed an issue where some views couldn’t be copy-and-pasted into other applications. Stimulator interval can now be specified in milliseconds. Fixed an issue where the input amplifier dialog would reset its scale to default after any setting was changed.